~ The Frog Prince ~
by Brothers Grimm ~
That is how I feel about clothes shopping...
It may be due to my mid life figure,
my current budget,
my colour preferences,
my age,
my personal taste
or that I have the basics currently hanging in my closet.
I can stroll through a store and easily dismiss about 95% of the items.
So when I spend an hour perusing the store and end up with only 5 or 6 things to try on that may or may not work, that is a considerable amount of time and effort.
Am I being too picky?
Am I looking for a needle in the haystack...that hidden gem?
OOTD
Style and Co. top
NYDJ
Clark boots
(Excuse the hair - weather was so icy that I had to wear a hat.)
I resorted to do my walking in the mall for several hours.
The blue Calvin Klein puffy vest on the hook in the change room is mine.
I like this swing shape of this top (above) as it camouflages all manner of sins.
I bought this blue top when I was in Vancouver last year.
Here is a
Calvin Klein soft soft sweatshirt...
not loving the overall look
BUT
oh how I LOVED the feel of it...
almost like sleepwear
and
I could wear this around the house.
Do I want to spend $60 on it just to wear it at home?
No I don't think so...
Skinny striped swing top
Style and Co.
cozy
reasonably priced
($25)
(covers the hips)
can be worn with skinny jeans, leggings or pants.
I didn't take pictures of the other tops as they were total rubbish on me.
You can see here how height challenged I am at 5'1
in clothing terms that makes me a "petite."
Not skinny though...
Let me be honest I'd like to lose 10 pounds.
So its working out with the kettle bells, walking,
and
monitoring what I eat and drink.
At my age, almost 62, results take longer and I need to work harder so
it might be a few weeks away before I see significant results.
Drove to Willows Beach after the ice melted and walked along the Esplanade.
The fresh air cleared out the cobwebs and I felt energized.
Later I stopped for a skim milk latte.
A low WW point indulgence.
I will often take myself out for a coffee.
I don't mind being alone at a table in the coffee shop.
Years ago this would have felt very uncomfortable.
but now
perhaps because I am older
or that I spent time in Paris alone at the street cafes
I feel relaxed and I am able to just be calm and enjoy the experience.
Back to shopping...
wish that there were more petite shops in our town.
I do not like online shopping very much.
It costs so much to send back garments that do not fit
and one does not get to feel the fabrics or try on more than one size.
Oh and while I am wishing,
how about some petite shops that cater to women of a certain age?
Travelling to Vancouver or Seattle to buy petite garments is expensive!
Are you a petite or tall woman?
Are you "average?"
Where do you like to shop?
What do you think about sourcing clothes for us over 60 gals?
Do you have a seamstress or do you sew clothes for yourself?
Do you find it frustrating to find things that fit and flatter?
Please chime in on this discussion
I would love to hear from you on this topic.
~ Be Well and Be Kind ~
108 comments:
Hostess, even in Los Angeles, very few stores carry Petite sizes anymore. It's incredibly frustrating!
I feel your pain! I hate everything in my closet. We have had so much bad weather, I wear a nightgown a lot. My straight/thick waist keeps most pants from fitting. I have 2 pr. of J. Crew boyfriend jeans and that is it. I sew for myself but that has gotten old. Then the dreaded holes in the front of the shirts. Pretty soon I'll be naked. So yes, I feel your pain. Looking for the magic store that will serve us women well. Cheers, Mary
I agree. I'm not sure if it's my age, 64, so my taste has changed, or if it's that the clothing trends have changed. I'm also 5' 1" and would like to lose about 6 or 7 pounds, so it sounds like we're similar. I have good luck at J Jill. They have a nice petite line and the clothes are well-made. They aren't inexpensive, but they have sales often. Also, I have their credit card which gives an additional 5%. Love your blog!
I am so far from being fashionable that I hesitate to comment. I am 5' 3 and ¾". (My husband, who is 6' 4", always laughs at the fact I feel the need to include that extra ¾".)
I weigh 121 pounds.
One of my big issues with buying clothes is I am a bit too short for regular sizing. The length of the legs on pants and the sleeves on shirts is always too long. On the other hand, I'm just a bit too tall for petite sizes to fit properly. Things end up being just a bit too short.
There is also the problem of the horrors of the garment making industry, along with the fact that so many ready to wear items are poorly made. And then there is the problem you have mentioned. Finding clothes suitable for women our age. And by suitable I don't necessarily mean the look of the clothing, although that can be a problem. It just seems like so many things are made with a slim twenty year old in mind, not someone who has given birth to children, racked up decades of life, and gone through menopause. :-)
Which brings me to the answer to your question. I have started sewing some of my own clothes. I'm still pretty much rubbish at it, and I don't enjoy the process the way I do knitting or spinning. But I get an immense feeling of satisfaction when I am wearing something I've made for myself. I started with the most basic of patterns, and I was careful to pick things that I actually would wear if they turned out okay. Some projects have gone straight to the garbage, but others get worn frequently. And as I keep at it my closet is slowly being replaced with things I have made rather than things I have purchased. I would say that at this point I make about half of what I wear, and purchase the other half. My goal for this year is to tip the balance in favour of homemade garments.
I should also say that reading your blog has encouraged me to "up my game" from having a closet full of things that fall into the category of dog walking attire. I now have several things I can wear that are a bit nicer than required for walking the dogs!
Hostess I think it's good to be picky! I think the quality of clothes has really plummeted the last several years, and with the expense of clothing production to the environment it's best to buy a few things and wear them loads. Finding those few things is another story though! I am 5'7" and average weight so I never really had much problem finding clothes to fit, and with online shopping it really became too easy. I'm actually planning an extended break from buying anything new so I can fully wear what I have and save my money towards certain goals I'd like to reach in the next three years.
With that in mind I've shuttered my Frock Philosophy blog and I'm back to writing Mop Philosophy publicly, my domestic diary is really what gives me the most joy. Writing a blog about clothes is too tempting when one is not buying clothes! ;)
I love your style, your basics combined with your scarves and interesting jewelry, good shoes and coats, I think it's perfect! xx
I know Eileen Fisher and JJill carry petites but to think the city of LA does not have many petite shops is quite surprising to hear!
I am sorry to read of your clothing woes...
my goodness we are not alone by any stretch of the imagination!
There must be some decent pants out there for you...thank goodness for those JCrew jeans.
I only keep what I truly love in my closet as I cannot stand feeling bad about what I am wearing as it makes my whole day feel blah.
Lets hope that a reader can help us find that illusive shop!
Thank you Kathy! Its hard to look slim and toned when we are so short...5 pounds looks like 10...I am sure you understand!
My walking partner buys a lot of clothes when she is on holiday...she found some great things at JJIll...and also on her trip to Montreal. I prefer to sightsee, visit museums and galleries when I travel but clothes shopping has become problematic so I may have to keep that in mind on future trips.,
Good that you are looking to remedy your fitting issues by sewing your own garments...a tailor or seamstress can be expensive for making an entire outfit but for alterations they are a godsend. I agree that dressing in decent clothes is important I also think that we need to be mindful of the activity that we are participating in...for my kettle bell workouts I wear a loose top and yoga pants.
Often I wear something similar for my walks.
I don't want to look inappropriately attired at any time...because I feel that I stand out and I would prefer to blend in!
You are wise to save for your goals...
I am saving for an extended holiday in Provence.
I wonder if I have missed some of your posts? I will check as soon as I finish this comment as I always love reading about your family, dog and how you keep your home.
Happy New Year!
Hi Hostess...there used to be a store called Connie's Petites in Oak Bay but I think it moved to Sidney (???) It catered only to petite figures. Maybe it's still around. Had nice things too. :)
Hi again...Looks like there's a place called Taylor Lynn's Petites on the drive...maybe the same spot?
As a lady who's shorter than you and a bit older, finding clothes that fit and look age appropriate but not matronly is hard. No low waists for me.
On our winter vacation I spent too much time inside a huge Fashion Show Mall in search of a new pair of jeans. Many of the stores have depleted their supplies of petite sizes or spread them out randomly among our brands. That's a major hassle.
Nordstrom had a tiny petite section, though they were catering to the younger crowd. Dillard's had a larger area but I found the clothes unflattering.
Several stores had Eileen Fisher, though no petite sizes. I found one pair of pants that I think I could have purchased in a petite though they didn't want to order them in. Like you, ordering and returning items to Canada is expensive.
At the end of the process, I was tired out and had nothing to carry out.
You can feel my frustration. My only hope is that The Bay brings in something. They're better than most stores.
When I went shopping with my best friend who was a foot taller, we laughed because she had opposite issues.
I peruse both locations and I think it is now called Taylor Lynn . They have basics and that is where I found my new black skirt. Their selection is not very large and many of the styles are not to my taste...I know I am picky but I would rather not spend the money unless I really love it. I hate to waste money...
It is the same shop just a new name.
Leslie, I'll be 65 in late April and need to lose a few pounds---at least 25. I'm taller than average and have some challenge finding pants that are long enough for me. I have done well with Eileen Fisher , but their prices have gone up and up and I don't like voluminous. SOMETIMES I can find something at J Jill, but really prefer Lafayette 148 when I can find a style that works for me. I really rely on basics and do very little shopping. Like you, I want to get serious about losing weight (again).
Similar to one of your other commentators (is that the right word?), I'm 5'3 and 3/4" (also with a 6'4" husband), and it's a constant problem to find something that's just right. But I've had some success at Talbots - their regular prices are a little too steep for my budget, but they have very good sales, and the quality of most of what I've bought there has been excellent. I do love your seaside photographs, and the flowers that you have so much earlier than we do here in southern Alberta. They're a little island of pleasure and calm for me, especially in these past few months when I've been dealing with dh's health and my very elderly mother across the country (I've appreciated, more than you'll know, your comments about your own mother - they've helped my perspective on my own situation). But hopefully things are a little more stable at the moment, so I'm looking forward to taking care of so many things that have been put aside, such as my own wardrobe and some much-needed home renovations! I'm not sure that some of what's in my closet would even be suitable for dog-walking ....
I sew my own clothing. I'm short, so one of the advantages of sewing for myself often means that I can get a really great fitting garment. One of the challenges, however, is that I can sew a complete outfit, try it on, and feel 'meh'. From time to time, I need to try on ready-to-wear in order to get a better idea of the silhouettes that suit my 'changing' body.
I had luck at The Bay in Vancouver when I was there last year...much bigger selection of petites but still not that much to choose from. EF does have a good range of petites and their styles are really fabulous and if I could afford it I might dress exclusively in her line...but unless they are on sale I have trouble spending $400 for a sweater....I am on a pension and saving for a trip to Provence so its all about priorities.
All my friends are taller than I am and they do not seem to have any issues with finding clothes that fit!
In Australia for older but fashionable women we have Trenery which does comfortable but elegant clothes. You can check out their website. Sizes run big so you would probably be the smallest. They sell the sort of clothes you can put on and get out of the house in while feeling good. Their younger sister brand is Country Road.
Nice tunic tops, blouses, structured jackets and easy fitting but flattering dresses.
Marks and Spencer are very good to buy from online and have excellent petite clothes.
Another good brand for smaller sizes is Esprit, although you have to look and look for the right thing to come up in their weekly new clothes.
Good luck,
Michaela
I'm 5'7" so I don't have the fit problem. But,my BFF is 5'0" & I know well her problems. Talbots has a very large Petite Collection. I think all us at a certain age have way too much in our closets. I'm also striving to wear what I have, because I have way too much and duplcates of so many things. I believe we're all like this a bit, as we know what we like and we continue to buy the same idea over & over. One thing I definitely will keep NEW are accessories. A new bag, shoe, scarf can do wonders for an outfit, any outfit. I think I could go around the world with 3 black outfits, but a ton of accessories. So this is where I'm spending my money these days. I absolutely love Eileen Fisher and I, too, would buy everything she makes IF I could afford it. But on the upside of this: her fabrics are so wonderful that if one does pick up a piece or two you will own it a long long time without getting tired of it. Just be VERY CAREFUL HOW YOU LAUNDER OR CLEAN these good pieces, this is key to keeping them beautiful. I know most women don't like to iron anything, however, the heat & steam actually fuses the fibers back together so you have a finish which looks new & not shabby. To me, this is key. I cannot stand to look messy, shabby or unkempt. I know, you know I mean. xx's
Talbots has a good petite section. Some of their styles are frumpy but they do have good basics and a few really nice classics. If you have one near by you might check it out.
What a relief to read your post, Hostess, and all the comments - I've just turned 60 this year and have acquired an extra (unwanted!) level of padding around the middle ... so it's been hard to find affordable, well-made items that fit and flatter. Glad to know I'm not alone in my shopping frustration! I'm average height (5'5"), but often find the proportions of regular items are a bit 'off' for my size and shape, and I'm also a bit too tall for petite sizing. Beyond that, I really agree with Dani about the decline in quality, even for mid-priced mall stores like Eddie Bauer or Banana Republic that used to be reliable sources for basic sweaters and tops . Shopping is hard work these days - so it's a good incentive to take care of the items that are our closet 'winners'.
This is a real problem. I am only 5'3" so like you I really need petite clothing. If I really want something nice I make it. Otherwise,
I find some petite things at The Loft, they have a better selection online than in the stores...I do have a store nearby which makes it easy to return things if they don't work out. I also order casual clothes to wear around the house in petite sizes from Old Navy. Actually I find it harder to find age-appropriate styles than clothing that fits.
Good luck on your quest.
Bonjour! At 5'3", I feel challenged when shopping. I do not want to buy $400 sweaters or $250 pants. I like the Style and Co. on you. My daughter, who is just 5'1" has just had bariatric surgery and is descending the size ladder but choices are few. Travel is my priority and as I turn 65 this year, I lose my "bridge" and will be stretching my pension dollars further. Attractive accessories and jewelry matched with basic "workhorse" clothing seems to be the answer. I wish you luck in your shopping.
Clothes shopping is not fun any more. I can wander for hours (and it can seem like days) and not find anything I like, in colours that suit me, and at a price I'm willing to pay as an almost 63 year old retiree. Like Kristieinbc, I'm now sewing as much of my wardrobe as possible (not yet up to sewing raincoats, and such but one day maybe). I find I like the challenge and I can get the fit/length I want. (I even like making some things for my daughter -- she's much easier to fit and always very appreciative!).
I still wander the stores, but am rarely tempted to purchase as I look at the items and think 'I could make it better myself at less cost'. Now it's mostly for inspiration :) Lyn
Interesting topic! I can sympathize with the petites because my mother was your height, and had a very hard time finding clothes. I agree that the pickings for ladies our age is challenging. Although I am around 5'6, and sort of thin, I have a spinal deformity that has only worsened with age, and gives me a very short waist and rounded back. That makes finding thing....and liking the way I look.....a challenge. I am hoping to get back to sewing this year, as I am so tired of shopping and buying things I'm not really satisfied with. I, too, love EF, but cannot afford her clothing. I find at this point in life I am not willing to be uncomfortable for fashion, but still like to look nice. I've shopped in second hand stores for years, but it seems anymore there is so much fast fashion there, it's not worth it. The consignment shop near me carries mostly work wear, although now and then I find something.
You know your style, and seem to know what to buy, and how to put it together so well. I don't think that's picky........that's smart!
Nearly 53 years old and it is hard to find clothes for our age group. I sew, but don't get as much new clothes into my wardrobe as I would like as the work full-time things gets in the way of sewing. I will buy some things at Talbot. I liked the blue top on you.
Here are my thoughts and ideas: I am average height/average size (although I used to be thin size and would like to be again!). I shop at Kohl's, Lands' End, LL Bean. I'm not a big shopper. I wear classic style clothing. I tend to say I'm pretty plain and boring. I like tops to be on the longer side as I feel it looks better. I feel swing type tops make me look bigger than I am. I tend to dress in layers - turtlenecks and a vest or sweater. Oh woe is me when winter is over and I must dress in a more "exposed" way! Haha! Strangely enough I sometimes find things I absolutely love and then see I'm in the petite dept, which doesn't work for me! There's a lot out there - in the clothing line - that sure doesn't work for older women, in my opinion a lot of it doesn't work for anyone.
I hate clothes shopping. I would spend all my money on my home instead, but I do need clothes since I work as a teaching assistant in an elementary school. I am 5'4", average height but a lot of slacks are too long and petites are too short. This year I have started wearing leggings a lot. I love longer flowing-style tops over a pair of leggings with boots or ballet flats. Leggings always fit, are stream-lined under a top having no pockets, zippers, and buttons, don't need to be ironed, come in lots of colors, and are very affordable. As a matter of fact, I purchase most of mine at Walmart. They have heavier leggings for winter too. I purchase almost all my tops at TJ Maxx or Marshalls for $20 and under. I almost never shop at a mall and do not like to purchase clothes online. I really like the longer, looser tops on you!
Gloria
PS - I do like J Crew as well. I do shop online and when it works it's great - for me it works with tops, but bottoms not so much.
I think it is very hard to find age-appropriate, casual clothes of good quality. I am going to be 65 and like to dress stylishly. So many things are geared to younger women (skin tight, show a lot of skin), are of poor quality fabric or seem so matronly.
I live in a small city with limited choices. Department store clothing is very cheap looking anymore. We have a few boutiques that have nice things but are pricey. I don't mind spending more for basics I will get a lot of wear out of (even those are hard to find) but agree with you-I don't need a $400 sweater to meet friends for coffee, etc. I want to look pulled together and comfortable but not sloppy. Everyone I know over about 50 or so feels this way-no matter their shape or size.
Hi Hostess - I opened your page today after returning from a frustrating 3-hour shopping experience in Pasadena CA. I share your pain and circumstances. I have had good luck with LLBean's petites but only after trial and error ($$$ returns' postage) with sizing. Ladies, it's time to learn to knit and sew, using very simple Eileen and Jill/style patterns. Capes for outdoor jackets, pull-on skirts/pants to wear with tops that hide the waistband. Simple clothing in lovely fabrics look more expensive than clothes with fussy details. Striking and stylish scarves and necklaces will draw attention to our lovely faces. Let's not worry about being short. I read someplace that short people live longer. If I saw it on the internet, it must be true.
Belated Happy New Year, Hostess!!
I feel your pain about the range in store at the moment. Admittedly, I do already own a lot of clothes that I am yet to get the most out of. I've been shopping my wardrobe lately which has lead me to realize that a big edit needs to happen soon.
SSG xxx
Oh, hostess, I am experiencing a similar frustration. I have access to two clothing stores in my rural area-JCP and Maurice's which I believe is a Canadian clothing chain that caters to younger shoppers. My daughter is an employee at Maurice's, has great taste (she often dresses the manikins by the changing rooms) and can clue me in to new garments that she knows will enhance my wardrobe. Interestingly, though, each store carries different items (I have access to 3 stores) so an item can be in one store but not another.
The issue for me is trousers. I am a little shorter and rounder than you and between stock sizes. And both JCP and Maurice's proliferate in skinny jeans and "jeggings." I look more like a stand in for Jimmy Dean sausages than a fabulously fashionable 62 year old wearing those! My solution is to frequent second hand stores when I need to replenish. The most I have ever paid was $25 for a leather bomber jacket twenty years ago; most stuff is in the $12 to $20 range. I do have to hem the pants, but that is within my skill set thankfully.
Part of your frustration may be the time of year as well. I always have a shopping slump in these cold gray days of January. I always feel frumpy this time of year and the dark clothes that are in the stores are not exactly a pick me up...Carol
Dear Hostess, you really do have a 'girlish' figure ! Look at your slender legs ! I wish I was half that slender..... I too have had a lot of luck with J Jill. Once you know how their sizes run you can buy on line.They do have lots of sales - sign up for the emails. They just finished a 40% off sale prices and free shipping - I really stocked up then !
The minimal wardrobe is the answer and thrift and consignment shopping do help stretch my budget.
Eileen Fisher does have quite a few billowy garments which do not flatter my figure...I do love how they look on taller gals but there are enough slimmer garments in her line that I can wear. If only they were less expensive...sigh.
It must be a challenge for designers to make beautifully made clothing at reasonable prices.
The weight creeps on so quickly when we are not paying attention...I am back counting WW points and trying very hard to work out and walk...its becoming more and more difficult as I age to shed those pesky few pounds.
Good luck Susan!
Hi Dianne,
Knowing that our little island city snippets cheer you is wonderful...
and I am sorry to hear that you are dealing with a family illness and an aging parent. It feels overwhelming at times and one cannot see beyond the fog to move ahead and take care of ourselves...so good for you to focus on your list of projects. Little by little you'll get on top of things and I think you will enjoy the accomplishments...even if they are as small as sorting out a junk drawer or rearranging your closet.
Fit is so important isn't it? Good that you do your homework in the change room before you buy your fabric and pattern. It takes a lot of work to sew things well...I admire your efforts.
There is such a fine line between baggy and frumpy to figure flattering stylish clothing. If my first thoughts are MEH I know it's not the garment that I should be purchasing and I leave it behind.
I loved Marks and Spencer's when they had a shop here in town...great classics and well made...thank you Michaela, I will explore their website and see what is available. I have seen some nice Esprit things at the Bay here in town but they must be popular as their stock goes very fast! I saw lots of XSmalls on the racks!
I have a few EF pieces that I purchased on sale and I do love them...
I actually wore out a pair of her pants because i wore them so much...3 years of wear and loved the fit too.
I am a fan of ironing...I wash garments inside out and hang them to dry.
My wardrobe is not very big...I suppose I could get by with a few less items but I have really been careful not to buy things that I will not wear often.
Accessories are fabulous...worth seeking out the unique and beautiful and I find they are the easiest things to buy!
We do have a Talbot here...some things are too frumpy, but as you say the basics are reliable options. They have great sales too.
Women of our age should be able to find decent stylish clothing at a reasonable price point...I think that paying $400 for a sweater or $250 for a pair of pants is a bit high. My NYDJ are up there too and I own 2 pairs of them and wear them a lot.
My newest black skirt was a tad under $100 but I know that this will be worn often for several years to come and it fit so well that it was an easy purchase...
Fit is really the key here...and quality we don't want things falling apart soon after we start wearing them...that is wasteful.
Adrienne it would seem like many of us are finding fit styles and quality to be an issue. It feels good to know that I am not alone...thank you for sharing your thoughts!
I am not familiar with The Loft...and Oh my, I did not know that Old Navy made petites...I will have to check them out.
NYDJ ARE expensive! They are the only jeans that I have found that fit me properly and they do come in a petite length...I have 2 pair and have been babying them in the laundry!
Style and Co. is hit and miss....The Bay carry them in petites so I always look to see what they have in stock...just in case!
Your daughter will want to have some figure flattering garments when she arrives at her new size...it might mean a mother daughter shopping trip!
The basic clothes and accessories do make up most of my wardrobe but when they wear out I wonder where will I shop?
My walking partner is taking a fitting class and has sewn some new clothes. I am rubbish at sewing and no longer have a sewing machine. I do not need many things but would really love to find a line of affordable stylish well made garments that were available in petites....
Do you have a blog? I'd love to see what you are making.
Thrift and consignment shopping is hit and miss but so worth it when we find that gem! I have to agree with you about all the fast fashion...it does not last long before it pills and looks shabby. I bought a pretty tunic top and within a few washings it looked like a dish rag...money wasted that could have been better spent elsewhere...and we all know it does not grow on trees.
I too am short waisted... and rounded backs are becoming more of the norm as we age...there must be some designers out there who would be willing to take up the challenge of dressing our demographic.
Life is busy!
Sewing takes time...
hopefully you enjoy the process and are pleased with your end result.
In the meantime, it is good to hear that Talbots is where you find some things.
Do you think that we become more discerning as we age?
I used to buy much more and some garments were just spur of the moment purchases...I think back now on all the money that I wasted and am ashamed.
I rarely expose too much! I am far too self conscious and conservative...
I think I am with you on that Jeannine!
Gloria,
I love the look of leggings with a looser top...lots of range of motion for working with those elementary students...clever you.
I bought jeans from Walmart when my weight was in transition...
the fit was not perfect but the price point was favourable.
If you can find cute tops for work at $20 you are doing well....
long tops do cover a multitude of sins!
Jan that is good to know...
I do not like to show a lot of skin or spend thousands of dollars on clothing every year!
Our city is smallish too...so not the population that demands variety.
I find that I buy very little these days. Like you, I am petite. I don't want to look as though I am dressing a couple of decades younger than I am. I find that a lot of petite clothing gist a bit girly. Another reason for staying out of the shops is my decision to retire in early 2018. I would like to make do with the work clothes I have and then focus on a wardrobe to fit new interests.
Being 5ft4 and chubby I understand how horrid the shopping experience can be. The past five years or so I have realized that I have to stock up on buying pants in the summer when shops stock 7/8 lengths which at least look normal on me. I wish they made more tops at a flattering length. They either seem too short and tight or huge and unflattering.
Grrrrrrrrr!!!
I love your thoughts on dressing...
Mr.HB and I enjoyed a lovely holiday in Pasadena and have many fond memories....if only we could find clothes that would suit us!
SSG you have a great closet and I think that you will be well!
Yep.. as many here have said, I share the same frustration. Even at 5'7 and 140 LBS (I will be working off the 5 pound belly weight acquired from the holidays, ugh!) I find it difficult to find flattering choices and the fabric is awful synthetic stuff for the same price as we used to pay for the real thing. I did have luck at White House Black Market: however, it was rather pricey for a top I purchased last minute (no other choice, nothing was fitting well from my closet..again, that darn 5 LBS or just plain flabby, lol) to attend a Christmas Party. I do usually find things at Ann Taylor and the Loft (Ann Taylor's more casual and less expensive sister store) and they carry petite sizes. Also, I like J.Crew and J. Crew Factory.
Thank you for this post, I so enjoy your blog!!
Renee in Northern California
I think because you genuinely like clothes and fashion that your infectious enthusiasm for it comes across and that is half the battle to be fair. I think though knowing what brands suit you is important in this age of endless brands and shops. But just that little nip and tuck of a shirt or trousers makes all the difference - after all that is what haute couture is mostly about right?
What a great topic, Hostess. I have read all the comments and found them fascinating reading. You look great in your skinny jeans, and I liked the Calvin Klein top best, very cute. I am only a tad taller than you, and also not slim although not as heavy as I was a few years ago. Buying clothes is a humiliating ritual for me, and I sew as much as I can, but it is time-consuming and modern fabrics are different from what I learnt to sew. As we live in a hot climate, I like to make linen and cotton dresses, making them fit my top-heavy shape. Notice several women comment on the weight which accumulates at the waist - my bad news is that after a mastectomy five years ago, I was told, and it has turned out to be true, that this problem worsens, I guess because half your chest is skin and bone the fat has to go somewhere else! This is a prime reason why I persevere with the sewing. Fabric shops are disappearing at an alarming rate, and like many other sewists I now resort to some online purchasing which has the same disadvantages, ie you can't feel the fabric and really assess it just from a computer screen. But I too like to look good, and well put together, and I love to sew so all is good. Thank you for sharing this very personal topic Hostess.
I am 5'4" with short legs. Although I usually don't wear petite sizes, I often get petite or short pants. I find Chico's ankle length pants to be a great fit. And there is a particular type of tee that is great for me, longer and/or loose. My favorites have pleats or an open vent at the back. I just love them. Unfortunately, I have to search a variety of shops to find them, and it is hit or miss. Sometimes Banana Republic or Loft. And, of course, Nordstrom. But those are on-line purchases because these shops are not in my area. Every time I travel to Boston, I check for my styles and purchase if I find them.
Try being petite 5'2" and plus size! Even less of a selection. I have lost enough weight to often (but not always) fit into regular sizes but petite tops are still too tight across my generous chest! I have the most luck at Talbots, especially for decent basics. Thank goodness I've got a lot of decent basics and have put myself on a clothes shopping fast for the next few months (living a retired, casual life for now and trying to lose more weight) - I am still tempted so just stay out of the shops for now.
I like the look of Eileen Fisher but haven't seen many options for petites here and could only afford to shop the sales - the regular lengths would just swamp me!
I'm seriously considering taking some sewing lessons!
I buy nearly all my jeans from Talbot's. The Montreal store closed so I wait for a sale and order from US. Yes, I pay shippng and duties bur on the other hand it comes right to my door and the ease is worth it. I avoid department store change rooms, they were created to make us feel awful.
Hi Carol,
I do not know of the store Maurices...
your comment about the sausages made me smile! I have slim legs...it may be the only part of me that is slim so leggings and skinny jeans work for me but I totally understand the frustration when it comes to our least "best bits!"
You make a good point about the seasonal slump in the stores...once the Spring stock arrives we will have a whole new array of things to tempt us!
Dear Hostess,
I really enjoy your blog! I too am 5'1" and find that we don't have much selection for petite shopping. I have zero interest in learning to sew. Most of my wardrobe is from JJill, Talbots, and Eileen Fisher. Lately I've been disappointed with Eileen Fisher with the high price point, big over big volume, and poor quality is some products. I recently had to return an Eileen Fisher tunic that I wore once (sitting and playing bridge - not active) and the sleeves fell apart at the seams! There was so little fabric that the tunic couldn't be repaired. So, I've come to rely on basics from JJill, Talbots, and what I already have in Eileen Fisher and I change up basics with scarves and jewelry. I'm finally learning to only purchase new items that are a needed basic or an absolute "love". And I agree with Patricia that JJill does have fantastic sales and good quality for their price point.
My legs are the only part of me that is slim!
Perhaps I need to explore the JJill catalog and see what may work...my walking partner raves about their clothing and she is a very chic and stylish woman. She sews too so she recognizes quality when she sees it.
Its tough to find age appropriate clothing...I do not like the frumpy look but I also do not want to look girly. Your retirement wardrobe will be different from your work wardrobe...oh and you will have time to shop leisurely for those few things that you need! How exciting for you!
I feel your pain I really do...The Gap sell ankle length pants and online they offer petites if you know what size you are then it takes the guesswork out of the equation...the retailers could and should focus on our age group as the boomers are the ones with more discretionary income and are we not the largest demographic group ?
Oh I so agree Renee, fabrics make a huge difference in how a garment looks and hangs. I love the natural look of linen, cotton, silk, rayons. Even viscose is sumptuous to wear...I also like Tencel which is a synthetic.
By the sound of it you have a lot more shops in your area which makes me think that you have more variety and options...but still you find the whole experience frustrating. It seems that many of us are struggling with weight and shopping issues!
Shopping for Haute couture and designer made clothing....would that not be fun?
I perused Chanel in Paris and was amazed watching the clientele...
wealthy customers sipping bubbly and nibbling canapes while trying on impeccably made garments at outrageous prices...
I suppose that I have champagne taste on a beer budget!
I heard that we pack on the pounds especially in our mid sections because there is estrogen in fat cells and it is natures way of protecting our hearts...I have read this in several respectable publications too so I do think there is some truth to this.
Oh I agree that linens are so wonderful to wear in the heat...most women I met in the south of France wear lovely linen loose dresses from Italy. I purchased one when I returned home and it is the best dress for the summertime.
I might need to take some sewing lessons...you clever sewers are making me think that I am missing out on this creative outlet.
Sounds to me like you have a similar issue with lack of shops that cater to petites.
We do have a small Banana Republic store here and they have a small petite section so I must remember to go in and look when I am at the mall...we do not have Chico's or Loft here in Canada. Vancouver now has a Nordstrom Shop and that is a ferry ride away...and usually means a night or two in a hotel which adds to the cost of the clothing expedition! Not unlike your Boston trips!
Gosh you are in the mecca for shopping in Toronto and if you are having issues, no wonder I am finding it tough here in Victoria!
I too have a large chest so I tend to buy separates as the top size needs to be bigger than the bottom.
Staying out of the shops while whittling away that weight is a great solution! Your spending freeze is a wise solution...good luck Margie!
Oh dear! I am imagining you playing bridge while your sleeves are falling apart! How dreadful...I hope you had a great hand at the time to take the focus of your partners away from your tunic!
J Jill is going to be on my list of shops to explore...it means a trip to Seattle for me unless I have any luck shopping online which I am completely rubbish at doing. But given my frustration I suppose I can try harder. Thank you Joyce.
If you know your size and do not have to guess at the fit that makes online shopping a breeze.
What is it about the change rooms that are so bad? Do you think it is the lighting?
I love the Calvin Klein top on you (sweatshirt style) and actually think it's the most flattering. If I'd been shopping with you, I wouldn't have let that get away!
I think a lot of people (myself included) are way too critical of themselves, and don't "see" themselves properly. I love that Calvin Klein sweatshirt on you, and think it's extremely flattering. I like you in more fitted clothing like that. If you don't have one, I think a longish cardigan would be a great addition to your everyday wardrobe. Jeans, a tee shirt and the cardigan - easy. Eileen Fisher does make some great ones, and I think Susan at Une Femme does a great job at dressing for petites.
I do own a longer black wool sweater, it is simple, has no buttons and is slimming!
Tees are on my list of things to buy as I only have two and one of them is ready to be tossed...now I wished that you had been with me shopping as I might have come home with the top! The swingy tops are not form fitting and you are right about me seeing myself in a critical light.
Susan une femme dresses exceptional well I love her blog!
I've been reading your blog for quite some
time now. I don't think I've ever left
a comment before, just enjoy all your
daily adventures and beautiful pictures.
Today I just have to comment. I am a woman
of a certain age, I am 5'10", I am size 6.
I find it impossible (almost) to find cloths
to fit me. When I do find a style or brand
that works, it is quickly discontinued????
On line shopping is a disaster!!
Shopping is my least favorite task.
Usually after looking for a pair of pants
for several hours, and not finding any.
I end up at a thrift store or antique mall
buying pretty dishes. Oh well.
Tea anyone?
loving these comments! x
I am loving the dialogue too!
Janet I do remember you commenting once or twice before as I remember your last name as it reminds me of Paris!
You are tall and very slim which is the opposite problem from mine...and you have a problem finding pants that fit. AS well as Average we need a Petite and a Tall section.
Love to shop vintage and aren't there some exquisitely patterned tea cups in the antique and thrift shops? I am having a cup of tea right now.
Just wanted to say that we do have LOFT in Canada. There is one at Park Royal in West Van and one out in the big mall near White Rock (forgetting the name).Go to LOFT Canada store locator for more info. None on Vancouver Island though. Maybe some day? They do ship from their LOFT Canada online store but the prices are way more than in the store! LOFT does cater to a younger crowd for the most part but you can find great things there for older women as well.
Oh I had no idea that Loft was in Canada! We usually don't venture too far from downtown Vancouver when we visit so that's good information. Thank you!
I am 5'10" and plus size and finding clothes is such a problem. I work from home so I don't need an office wardrobe per se, but I do like to look presentable to open the door at home, have a video conference call, or go places. When I find something that works, I buy multiples. I tend to shop for pants by catalog at Catherine's or Woman Within and in-store for shirts and more at Catherine's or CJ Banks. I'm not really into wow-ing the world with my fashion savvy, my budget is small and I prefer very conservative clothes.
What has happened to quality? It's practically vaporized. The more time goes by, I realize the importance of color, and having your colors "done". Poor us, who are doomed to buying off the rack. We can find items were the cut is spot on, but the color is wrong. The fabric is quality, but the color makes us look drawn. Or, heaven help us, the fabric is so unbelievably sheer. If I stray from my Summer palette, I never look my best. It just takes the fun out of shopping.
Petites are few and far between everywhere! It's a sad state when the stores don't carry them and we are forced to buy online. Luckily, many stores in the US offer free returns! I really like that swing top on you. With your slim legs, it's very flattering.
Park Royal is easy to get to especially by bus. The blue bus takes you there in no time. One can drive of course but on the bus you can sit back and enjoy the views over the Lions Gate Bridge.
Hi - I actually think that the Calvin Klein sweatshirt looks best on you - those "swingy" tops are just....matronly. And you could wear it other places than at home - the silhouette is more flattering IMHO.
Mecca indeed! But only if you are a) a toothpick and b) have lots of cash! I went up to Yorkdale Mall just before Christmas - it is now absolutely massive and at least 85% of the shops are for clothes shopping - and it has gone very high end, including Prada, Chanel, Tiffany etc. along with the latest Nordstrom's shop - I would say that out of these hundreds of shops I would have found something to fit in about 3 locations - and I'm not huge - just short & chubby. Now this was a weekday a few weeks before Christmas and the mall wasn't anywhere near what I'd term busy. I just don't know how they survive, especially if they exclude such a big part of the population - especially when it includes the ones who often have the actual money to spend! They say that the average North American woman is a size 14/16 but most of these shops cater to no one over a size 12 at best - and the notion of a size "L" in some of these shops is ludicrous - my 5'7" niece who hasn't got an ounce of fat on her takes a size Large in many of these shops! It is beyond frustrating. And judging by the responses you have received to this post - a frustration that many of us feel!
As I age (72 now) I have found inspiration from the casual but elegant clothes my idol Judi Dench wears on old episodes of As Time Goes By. Talk about timeless fashion!
It sounds like I will have to shop at the two petite shops here or learn to shop online from now. I do not travel to Vancouver or Seattle frequently where the petite departments are more common.
Buying off the rack, vintage or consignment are my only options.
I also prefer fabrics with a bit of weight that do not cling to my wobbly bits!
There usually are a variety of colour options each season...hopefully there will be something that you can wear and feel good in.
Gosh a matronly look was not what I was going for at all!
Well all I can say is you win some and you lose some :-))
I haven't seen that series in a long time but I do remember thinking at the time that Judi Dench was a gracious woman...still is too!
I like great fabrics. Fabric quality must be high end. Cut, fit and sizing seems random at best. I am 5' 8" and slim. Depending on the maker I take a size 6, 8 or 10. I can wear a medium or large petite top. Slacks often have to be altered to fit nicely. Needless to say I choose not to shop often. I am happy with what I have.
Oh, I do think you should be picky. If you have a small curated closet of clothes you love, you don't need a lot, and you can be discriminating. But yes, it is frustrating not to be able to find even one thing that passes the test! I love online shopping and do it almost exclusively. I do wish I could sew because I have just the thing in mind but can never find it! Great post.
Perhaps you can find a local seamstress who would work with you to create your dream garment?
Hostess, I think the proportions of the shorter top are best. With that shirt you are divided into one third/two thirds, rather than in half as with the longer tops. Thirds are more pleasing to the eye. As well, in the shorter top your beautiful legs look so much longer.
And Noelle, I too love Dame Dench's clothes in As Time Goes By! PBS Saturday evenings!
Dawn
Your powers of observation are very fined tuned...what is your background Dawn?
I sense that you might have experience in the arts or perhaps design.
Hostess...my background consists of personal anguish getting dressed every day. No formal training or experience in the arts or design. Just lots of mistakes and wasted money! In the last few years I've discovered blogs to be a really great source of education in these matters.
Yours is one of the best!
Dawn
Hostess, love this topic.
Finding good fitting clothes for my petite size has been a life long battle. My teenage years were the worst. I could only purchase from Nordstrom and because they are so expensive, I had very few clothes which I very bad for a teenager.
Now in my late fifties, I find the quality of clothes is so poor that they only last a short time so shopping for clothing is an on-going issue. Shoes are a big problem too and maybe you could do a separate post on that someday. I do a combination of thrift store quality items with some good quality basics like t-shirts for layering. Currently, finding a decent pair of good fitting jeans is proving a real challenge.
I wish I could afford more high end shopping but that isn't my reality.
I find Banana Republic and Ralph Lauren to be good quality that lasts.
Isn't it interesting how we continue to learn? I read about that very thing in a book and never thought about it when looking in a mirror. I will try and remember to look closer and focus on ratio of the silhouette next time.
Thank you Dawn for pointing that out to me.
Jeans are tough to buy for those of us who are petites.
I know that NYDJ are expensive...at least they are for me but I like the fit and mine are lasting a long time. I am currently wearing the first pair I bought I think it was 2 years ago and I was them in cold water inside out and hang to dry. They rarely go on sale here in Victoria but a friend told me that they do get discounted at Nordstrom and their other store The Rack...it might be a good exercise to go and try a pair on just to see if they work for you.
I am not an expert...but I suppose I could write a post on my personal history with shoes.... Sounds a bit like I might have a foot fetish....a true confessions article...my own personal history with shoes.
I'm almost 60 and about I'm 5'3" these days, with short legs. I wear dresses and skirts for the most part. I find them flattering, comfortable and easy. I don't spend a lot of money on them, and the ones I wear to death, I found at Steinmart in the $30 range. I buy my skirts at The Loft Outlet. I love coats and jackets, and spend my money on outerwear. I still wear coats that are over 20 years old. I have to have my pants hemmed as Petite pants are too short for heels. I don't care for flats, although I do have a pair of Chanel with 1/4 inch heels and at least ten pairs of Nine West Itsonn with 1 inch heels, that I use for travel.
My thoughts on shoes,
flats don't flatter; they only
make you feel squatter
in heels you stand tall, and though
they hurt toes, and the balls of your feet,
just repeat;
the more it hurts, the more you smile.
Just wanted to say that you look great and don't need to worry so much about those 10 pounds. Many women would be so grateful to be as slim as you. And I really like the look of the sweatshirt (the shorter top) on you. I feel your pain with petite shopping. I am 5'4" and often resort to petite tops since the regular sizes can be way too long. I often wonder if even petite sizes would be too long if I was a true petite. At Banana Republic the other day a salesperson told me that he recommended their petite sizes for 5'5" and under. What are the clothing companies thinking?
Your thoughts on shoes are welcome here!
I love flats and kitten heels...my foot comfort is essential. I do admire women like you who can gracefully walk in heels, it is just not my style so I suppose I am doomed to look squatty!!
I am not familiar with the Steinmart shop but those skirts sound like they are at budget friendly prices.
My weight is a factor with my blood pressure...the extra 10 pounds puts it up and my physician frowns on that as he is a bit proponent of heart health.
Its not vanity but budgetary too as I cannot really justify buying larger sized clothing and replacing my clothes in the closet!
Some bodies are petite in either the top or the bottoms so separates are the way to shop...if a petite fits better thats wonderful...problem solved.
Hello,
I too live in yyj! I am 5'7", so I find that petite sizes are not suitable for me. I buy quite a few of my jackets and blazers at the Sally Ann, and nine times out of ten when I pull one off the rack to have a closer look, it's a petite. Talbots, BR, Ann Taylor and other reliable classics etc. Perhaps you might have good luck checking there. I am enjoying your blog and Instagram posts.
Greetings Jane!
I donated some clothes yesterday to Sally Ann and found a new top while I was there.
BR and Talbots here in town sell nice petite clothing and browsing the thrift and consignment shops is a great way to stretch my budget.
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